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My experience in hospital during covid could well be a factor in the noncontagen numbers - I'm not vaxxed and wore a respirator in hospital if employees were 'standoffish' - I was asked to do a swap covid test - I stated that I would not allow my body to be penetrated - I offered to spit on the swab which would give the same information that swabbing would give - they were not interested - meaning the swab contained material that they wished to enter my body - something to think about

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You make an important point. The covid jabs, manifestly toxic and dangerous, do not need to account for all the excess mortality observed in the oppressive lockdown period. The orchestrated terror, the forced isolation, the social, economic and medical battery all get the credit before the poisonous bio-pharm countermeasures made it worse. The conclusions of the Ioannidis paper are indeed ridiculous relying as they do on estimates of VE (vaccine effectiveness) which have been repeatedly unmasked as fraudulent. Disappointing since he seemed to be one of the saner voices early in the debacle.

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That is not really my point, but related. Thanks.

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It would be valuable to know your best estimate of death and injury directly caused by the physical C19 shot, by direct I mean the vaccine contents was the primary cause of death, including the large increase in heart damage and cancers. Are the cancers similarly cause by the policy actions or is there a direct causal relationship to the C19 vaccines, or is the answer both again?

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My GUESS (since this data alone cannot answer that question) would be 20K to 200K, worldwide up to 2023. So, maybe some 8K "immediate" deaths in the USA. The number of overt disabilities of course would be much larger, and the dormant or slow damage (susceptibility to strokes and cancer) also. But the bigger disaster of trauma from the acute biological stress of the Covid period will also have long-term effects; for children similar to growing up in an actual war... I should do a calculation...

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I guess history will look back on the practices in our period of time similar to other historical periods like drilling holes in peoples skulls, blood letting, burning witches and other stupid ideas. I wonder if history will make the distinction that not all people of our period bought into the insane C19 pandemic responses, but was mostly driven by greedy, power hungry narcissists? We humans just can’t learn or change much even over periods of thousands of years. We need help from someone or something.

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